I do keep some extra gear pieces with int and +healing on them for BGs, but basically I am a typical prot pally. Anyway, I just won an AB and topped the healing charts for Horde and it was great fun.

I enjoyed laughing at the Alliance as I healed up my teammates (mostly a 69 warrior although a few other hordies got tossed heals once or twice as well) and then realized I could keep laughing when the hunters and rogues eventually came after me. Pushing 9,000 health self buffed with all kinds of armor meant that even after their 69 rogue had me stunlocked for a good 15-20 seconds I was only down to about 5,000.

I have to figure out what to do with this toon when I hit 70. My 4 real life friends need me to tank, but I might respec holy for pvp. Then again if BGs as prot are this entertaining, why switch? I wonder how different things would be as holy (assuming I use the same pvp healing gear). Less health and better heals? No holy shield for rogues and warriors who don’t realize I’m wearing tank googles? Holy shock instead of avenger’s shield? I see where the extra healing would be needed in really competitive arena play, but for BGs?

The new season 4 arean rating requirements have me seriously reconsidering buying a better computer and Age of Conan. I love World of PvP and often enjoy BGs. I want to be part of big epic battles where I kill Alliance (especially gnomes), not a 2 on 2 against other Horde in an arena match that is totally meaningless.

Except arena is the only way to get serious gear for PVP, which sucks for people who don’t have fun in arena. Raiding Stormwind is hard, why doesn’t that make me eligible for gear? Defending Thrall against 200 Alliance would be tough too so why doesn’t that make em eligible for gear? Because when I walk into Stormwind, I want as much resilience as possible. When I’m in AV I want as much resilience as possible.

These are my choices as I see them:

1. Spend many hours not having fun in arenas hoping to get a high enoughr ating to purchase some S4 gear. Then do the stuff I enjoy in awesome gear.

2. Do the stuff I enjoy in pve gear and the limited pvp gear I get from BGs. Basically meaning I have to be a rogue or a paladin. I’d like to play a shadow priest but their survivability in pve gear sucks. Eventually I could do enough BGs to get all S2 or better gear, but I don’t like grinding BGs…

3. Quit “world of arenacraft” and find a game that actually supports world PVP.

3 is lame because I hate starting over. I do have close friends playing AOC and if they say it’s cool I’ll have to consider it.

2 allows me to spend most of my time having fun, but pvp is more fun when I live and it doesn’t give me access to a lot of good pvp gear.

1 means I spend a lot of time playing a game and not having fun doing it. I might as well just work and earn some money while not having fun.

So I’m gonna try choice 2. We’ll see what happens.

Possible objections – I know some people will say that this is good because it rewards the serious pvpers. That is an exaggeration though. This system rewards the serious arena players. I am or would like to be a serious pvper, in battles with hundreds of other players. However for pvpers like me there are no gear rewards.

The rules we’re tlaking about by the way:

When Season 4 begins, Season 3 items will be reduced in personal and team arena rating requirement to:

Shoulders: 1950
Weapon: 1800

The new Season 4 items will have the below personal and team arena rating requirements:

Shoulders: 2200
Weapon: 2050
Head: 1700
Chest: 1600
Legs: 1550
Gloves: none
Off-hand: none

In addition, some of the Season 4 quality items that will be purchasable with honor will also carry a personal and team arena rating requirement:

Boots: 1700
Ring: 1650
Bracers: 1575
Belt: none
Necklace: none
Trinket: none

The Season 2 items, which will move to the honor system when Season 4 begins, will continue to have no rating requirement.

Here’s one from Zazael – hopefully the first of many!

We just had an awesome world pvp event.

Lavianna and Diabolicus were in felwood killing some felpaw ravagers or something, pretty well mobbed up. Lavianna is 52 and Diab is 53. this…drum roll please…

level 70 draenei paladin name…lol…”Dethgiver” attacks me from behind while I’m mobbed while lavianna was also mobbed. The battle lasted like 3 full minutes. He took potion, bubbled, bandaged, all that…

I dotted him up and Lavianna was out of mana so she worked him with her wand. she bandaged once and potioned twice and ice blocked. I siphoned life, drained life, dropped one healthstone and one potion…we had him down to 10% when he killed me but I was soulstoned so I popped back up when he jumped on lavianna…must have freaked the shit out of him. God I love being a lock. Then I blasted him and ran around dotting him up again and emoting lol…we were running in circles around him laughing! it was fucking awesome. Finally he goes down and it all paid off. I cannibalized him while he watched, laughed, and spat on the ground. then we hearthed out to shattrath…sweet victory. We got 13 honor each for that. look up Dethgiver if you have time…rofl

Hey Jason here. I don’t play much these days, but I did take a few hours recently to do some Death Forge quests. They were yellow to me but I hope they are red to anyone who’s not a pretty well geared 70 because I died twice trying to take Hungryfreak through.

I’m not complaining though. I went in there twice. The first time I completed a kill quest for 11 gold, picked up 2 greens, 2 fel armaments, 3 marks of sargeras. Plus there is some nightmare vine, adamantite, and fel iron to be found around Shadowmoon. Oh and 2 stacks of netherweave plus all mobs drop silver.

The second time I was did kargosh and the summoning chamber for 11 gold a piece. While doing them I also found Ced’s carver, 2 of lunacy, a couple of greens, 3 stacks of netherweave, and about 25 marks of sargeras. At first I thought the lunacy card was a very lucky drop, but that deck seems to be one of the least desired…

But depending on what I get for the carver and the lunacy card (and the 4 greens which I’ll prolly have disenchated and the fel armaments) I’d say I easily made over 100 gold per hour and it was more fun / challenging than grinding or just herbing and mining.

But unless you’re 70 with decent gear or in a group I wouldn’t do these quests. I had a 10 gold repair bill (died twice), burned 5 or so healing pots (though I picked up a few more), burned a fel blossom, etc.

Just a few ideas that Blizzard could do if they care about us World PVP fans:

Make honor kills in World PVP worth more honor than Honor kills in BGs.

Everyone knows that the only way to farm honor is to hit the BGs. Capture the flag is not half as cool as finding 3 Alliance in Tanaris fighting a scorpid and an air elemental (I was on Goldsong around 44, before the move to a PVE server) and killing all 3. Yeah they were at half health and poisoned or whatever, but still there were three of them and we were about the same level. It was amazingly fun but pretty much worthless in terms of honor. So instead of looking for more fun I go play more capture the flag to get more honor…

Have a real World PVP daily quest.

Standing in an empty tower for a few minutes is usually pretty boring. How about “Kill five players from the enemy faction in Terrokar” or something? Maybe they only count toward completing the quest if they are the same level as you or higher.

Have raid quests for enemy cities (with sweet quest rewards the first time and make them repeatable for honor and gold like a daily).

Have enemy leaders drop something meaningful.

What if a random person in the raid could come home with the Night Elf leader’s mount or something? Or an epic BOP? Or there was a chest with a buttload of gold in the boss’ room?

Have cool titles for players who have killed all the important enemy leaders.

Conqueror Goldsong or Conqueror Gnometosser sounds pretty lame anyway. And WTF is champoin of the Naaru? How about Champion of the Horde? That would be a sweet title.

Any more suggestions?